kitto3o7sp
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Post by kitto3o7sp on Jul 20, 2003 23:27:22 GMT -5
is it possibleto build a mac from scratch to meet OSX specs?
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Post by AMD on Jul 20, 2003 23:41:55 GMT -5
is it possibleto build a mac from scratch to meet OSX specs? Fairly difficult becuase you'd hvae to find all the parts first...Apple makes it harder by not selling just parts...it is a much different yet similar world from PCs |
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Post by moflsh03 on Jul 21, 2003 19:24:44 GMT -5
I just posted this at MrCs, but I think the questions actually started here. So I figured I better do a cut n'paste.  NOTE: This is said for the sake of building a MAC(and challenge there of) and I am not claiming that going about it this way would be the most economical. Although it may...if everything went smooth. OK, A great board to work with (cheap. available and will do the job) 8500 cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2743389150&category=25439heres one with a pic cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2743557573&category=4601CPUs install a CPU into the L2 cache slot! G3 cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2743026429&category=4601or..this one installs to a PCI slot and has a 1M cache! G4 400MHz/1M cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2742485955&category=4601Many cpu daughterboards will work on older boards also. A little research would be needed. But, one may find it cheaper to go this way over the upgrade cards. Everything else should be about the same as shopping for PC parts. PCI cards that are MAC compatable. SCSI drives are SCSI drives...MAC/PC doesnt matter. This board will even take a floppy!!(EDIT: MAC floppy that is) RAM is RAM (pretty much). And as far as the case...MAC shells are nice, but a PC case should do, as long as your good with a dremel. Above machine will run OSX just peachie. Addition: Dont underestimate the power and longivity of os9. Many designers that I work with still insist on using OS9 and have NO problems and will not for years to come. IMHO |
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Post by AMD on Jul 21, 2003 22:55:37 GMT -5
Once again, Thanks moflsh...
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Post by yaoming on Jul 26, 2003 22:39:45 GMT -5
Unless you use parts from another mac, it is near impossible to make your own mac. Apple uses a patented part, i think its the motherboard, that the Mac OS must have in order to boot. Apple has been experimenting with OSX builds for X86 processors, however an X86 version of OSX would require recompiled software, which software manufacturers would be unlikely to do after just rolling out with software for OS X on PPC.
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Post by moflsh03 on Jul 27, 2003 1:20:41 GMT -5
Actually its the bios that the OS needs to work at least for pre-PPC MACS. There are PCI ROM cards for x86 systems that one can insert a mac bios and run mac classic (7-8.0) OS on a x86 system. I've heard some good results and many indifferent very few bad. This is one of the well known emulators that along with a ROM card has been known to produce great results. www.emulators.com/softmac.htmAs far as building a MAC I'm not sure why you seem to feel its not a real build since the logic board can't be bought in a box. I have built a bunch of PCs from parts that I got used here and there...so whats the difference? I even built a mac that way. Technically one can build a MAC that just about matches a G4 performance with an older PPC logic-board and a G4 upgrade card. Everything else you would need can be bought brand spankin new if you would like...just like a building a PC. my2cents |
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Post by AMD on Jul 27, 2003 1:56:50 GMT -5
I see what you are saying moflsh and I have doen the same for PCs. I think that it is just because people see the Mac as a totally different thing and it is. Probably the weirdest thing for PC users trying to build a Mac is the fact that one just cannto seem to be able to access a BIOS. I tseems to PC users that everything is fixed.
If Apple decided to release an x86 version of Mac OS X, I would use it like I never knew Windows. Linux will always be in my heart though.
This new .Mac thing should make it easier to becuase like Microsoft's .Net, the code is prepared for the CPu type during installation. It seems like it'd work if they did it that way. By far, Apple seems to be the most compatible OS when dealing with other foreign OSes. Apple computers can see a whole host of other types of computers. With Windows, It is relatively difficult to get to that level. One major thing keeping from going full blown Apple is this simple fact, I can't afford it. Their cheapest computers are very under-equipped.
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Post by Frieza on Jul 29, 2003 1:28:49 GMT -5
i say that Mac is not worth building, come on, just get the usual pc and get watched by RIAA
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kitto3o7sp
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Post by kitto3o7sp on Aug 21, 2003 18:40:02 GMT -5
Wouldn't an X-86 Mac OS eventually mean more viuses and worms for the OS, which could put Apple in the hole if they have to do an automatic update thing like MS? Unless of course, iftheir OS is not vulnerable? Anyway, I think Apple is trying to avoid to be like MS, where selling the operating system to others would make building their computers pointless. THey would only produce software.
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Post by moflsh03 on Aug 25, 2004 4:54:10 GMT -5
Wouldn't an X-86 Mac OS eventually mean more viuses and worms for the OS, which could put Apple in the hole if they have to do an automatic update thing like MS? Unless of course, iftheir OS is not vulnerable? Anyway, I think Apple is trying to avoid to be like MS, where selling the operating system to others would make building their computers pointless. THey would only produce software. Bingo ...and then some.  |
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