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Post by moflsh03 on Oct 7, 2003 0:27:09 GMT -5
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Post by AMD on Oct 9, 2003 15:56:49 GMT -5
I under stand the fact that amny people out there feel strong hatred towards Microsoft and its ideas as well as many people who hate Apple and such but I think it is time they all grew up. If anyone really hates Microsoft so much, why don't they just stop using their products. It is so simple...just avoid it. I am getting sick and tired of all the bickering about Micorosoft this and Microsoft that. If you really really hate them so much, you might as well give up using their products. A real boycott does not have any affiliation with the thing they are boycotting. it makes no sense to me how someone can be angry at somethig and go back to it every day. Go ahead and use the alternatives. The bickering has to stop now. I am not happy with the fact that people cannot talk about a company without all of the negativity. I don;t love Microsoft but I don;t ahte them either. I use their products becuase thier products do work. It is a simple fact because if they didn;t work then the majority of computers would not be running thier products now would they. If you really feel that they are doing something incorrectly, why don't you stop and do it better than they are if you feel they are that bad. Bitching and moaning ain't gonna get it done, I ain;t gonna do it: Why? Because I am able to use Linux , MacOS, and Windows without hating any of them...It is as simple as that....
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Post by moflsh03 on Oct 21, 2003 3:03:07 GMT -5
hmmmm... well I will start off by saying that the "hatred" for M$ goes way beyond whether people like their OS and software or not. I suggest you do some reading about the M$s history and its use of bully tactics to maintain its monopoly over the PC industry.  I would also suggest you think about how M$s activation policy affects a users ability to dynamically maintain a system when it comes to hardware use and testing. And then there is Palladium! We technically "rent" an OS now, but with it, we may as well rent the entire system since it will take control of the system at the core and will even allow system manufacturers to dictate what will run and what you the user can see and do. Linux beware! ...and Linux programmers ARE aware! I would also do some reading on M$s bloat tactics and why there is so much bloat in their software. The link I gave above is a great example and should be read if you use windows, especially 9x flavors. M$s message board database and poster tracking and their current and future policy for patching the holes in their OSs are just a couple of more issues worth thinking about...amongst so many more. Now as far as the "choice" you mention, I beg to differ. There is NO way the average user could convert over to a linux based system at the moment. Linux is NOT user friendly and their doesnt seem to be plans to get it to be so. Even the man himself, Linus Torvalds has recently stated that it ws never his intention to make a user-based OS that the average person can grasp, nor has he promoted such an idea. Even for the "professional" user like myself there is a learning curve way beyond where it should be. I will also state that I myself, with the type of work I do, would be screwed if all I had was Linux to work with. For am example: when I start a project, 90% of the time I recieve a PSD from the designer or art director. This PSD will MOST likely have been created in PS6 or later. That would pretty much make me stuck in the mud. Now if your going to tell me that all I need is Wine, then I will have to tell you to go have another glass of wine so you don't accidently wake up out of your fantasy world.  Mac is another choice, yes, but not if I want to take advantage of the cost affective, powerful PC architecture that is readily available on the market today. So my point... I reserve the right to complain about M$ AND still use their OSs to run my hardware. I escape hypocracy because in the end I have truely very little or no alternatives or "choices". |
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Post by AMD on Oct 28, 2003 0:34:58 GMT -5
I have read about MS's bully tactics and can honestly say that it doesn;t bother me becuase IBM has done too...If that is how they do business so be it, in this United Staes, they can do as much of it as possible until just before it becomes a complete monopoly...
Of course,Linux may not ebthe msot user friendly but it still is an alternative. The PSD example doesn't work here my friend becuase Red Hat Linux 9 comes with a reader. And if Adobe formats are your thing, then you should be working on a Mac anyways...
The only point I am trying to make here is that hatred without reason is just plain stupid. I do not understand why some poeple cannot use products without bashing the creator. If you feel that you don;t like it that much, then make your own. It ain't easy creating an OS. It takes time and effort.
Of course MS may not have the best polcies but too many people use it who do not complain. Why? Becuase they don't know of any other way. Another point i am trying to make is this: bickering will not get anyone anywhere.
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Post by AMD on Oct 28, 2003 0:47:02 GMT -5
Great links though...  |
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Post by moflsh03 on Oct 28, 2003 19:12:09 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D LOL Sorry but the PSD example is a perfect one. A reader would do me little good. As for the adobe/Mac connection...that was true 5 years ago, but no longer applies. I have worked on both systems using adobe apps and have found NO difference. Gestalt Mac users tend to cling to things like that long after it applies. LOL Just last year I had a Mac user send me a bunch of files that were a bit confusing because he named them with 8 characters to make sure my win/dos puter wouldnt shorten the file names! I know he works with many people that use PCs, but I suppose they just think he is anal. I told him he could just name the files what he wanted to, but he insisted he knew better! ;D ...anyway, just a funny story.
I don't want to get into a debate here, besides I can see that your just trying to be cool about this stuff. BUT, I do want to add that many experts have proven that M$ has bullied its way to the top and while doing so, have broken many laws. For the most part, M$ has been protected because the fear of what action would do to the tech end of the stock market. M$ is thoroughly embeded into our (and the world) economy.
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Post by AMD on Oct 30, 2003 9:52:32 GMT -5
Of course there is no difference but Adobe on Mac is far better. i do not want to get into a debate either. And no i am not trying to be cool about this stuff....My point here is to let all of you out there who "hate" Microsoft to spend your lives doing something better than complaining about it. If you really do not ike it, just don't use it. Use Apple if you must. If you really want to, go ahead and try Linux. As it stands right now, OS X is much more stable than Windows XP even. The only Windows version worth using are the server side of things and even then, it can be shaky.
I am not disagreeing that Microsoft has done wrong to get where they are, they have! But what upsets me is that people continue to fund the cash guzzler by using their products. Apple is a perfectly good alternative, although it is a wee bit more expensive. There are people out there who are "biting the hand that feeds them right now" by hating Microsoft and using their products all at the same time... It'd be like a vegan who eats slaughterhouse beef.
this whole hating and using Micorsoft would be almost the same as a presidential candidate voting for his opponent. He wants to win but he votes for the other side.
Personally, Microsoft is not my most favorite company but I don't walk around with my nose in the air bashing them as I use their products. The same goes for Apple and Linux...
Some people just need to get over themselves...
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